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I wonder how you see Mystricism adding to the already well-established world-wide community and to the Scientific Pantheists? 


We considered adding the “Scientific Pantheism” label to our many labels but felt it didn't fit.  As you are clearly a well-informed person, you will know that the OED definition of pantheism is:

• NOUN [mass noun]
(1) a doctrine which identifies God with the universe, or regards the universe as a manifestation of God.
(2) the worship or tolerance of many gods.

Since our worldview doesn't register as real, the notion of a god or gods in any form, even with the word “scientific” prefacing it, we choose not to use it as part of our identity.

The main difference between our group and similar groups is that we include genuine "spirituality".  This "spirituality" may be naturalised or virtual, but it is real nonetheless. Also, I'm sure you have noticed from reading all the notes from our site that we elevate the practice and philosophy of kindness as crucial to our worldview, not just an afterthought, and not just a way to soften the ruthless edge of pure logic and reason.

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Do you see yourselves as Scientific Pantheists?
What is the MCU's stance on "science" being rigged for a bias for other agendas?

What is the stance on Mystricism when the "science" is

rigged for a certain bias for political and corporate agenda?


At the Mystrical Community Union (MCU), we recognise the power of the scientific method as the only honest and effective tool for understanding our world. Yet, we are also acutely aware that the products of science can be misused, leading to outcomes driven by greed or violence. This understanding shapes our commitment to not only uphold empirical evidence and rational inquiry but also to advocate for kindness and ethical responsibility in the application of scientific knowledge.

Our approach is to confront potential biases in science with both a critical and compassionate lens, ensuring that our pursuit of understanding is always aligned with our core values of integrity, empathy, and kindness. We strive to promote a version of science that is not only accurate but also humane and considerate of the broader impact on society and the environment.

In essence, Mystricism is dedicated to merging a rigorous scientific perspective with a deep commitment to ethical and compassionate action, recognizing the profound responsibility that comes with scientific discovery and application.

Does Mystricism have dogma or dogmatic elements?

Does Mystricism have dogma or dogmatic elements?


In examining Mystricism, it's evident that despite its unique approach to "spirituality", it harbours its own form of dogma. Dogma, fundamentally, is a set of principles laid down as incontrovertibly true.


Mystricism, while advocating for a reason-based philosophical identity and natural "spirituality", still establishes a framework of beliefs and values that its adherents are expected to accept. These include the emphasis on naturalism, the reverence for the unknown, and the commitment to kindness and scientific understanding of the world. Although these principles are rational and scientifically grounded, their adoption within the Mystricism community carries a semblance of dogmatic belief insofar as they form the unchallengeable core of what it means to be a Mystric. This is not unusual for any belief system, as the very act of defining a set of core principles or values inevitably creates a boundary between what is and isn't aligned with that system.


In the case of Mystricism, its dogma lies in its foundational principles, which, while open to rational inquiry and scientific understanding, are still presented as essential tenets of our doctrine

Why must you use words like "spiritual’" and "sacred"?  The have so much baggage.

I’m intrigued by your union, but why must you use words like

"spiritual’?"  They have so much baggage.

Despite its avowed distance from the supernatural, the essence of Mystricism’s adoption of the term "spirituality"  ignites debate. This stance is a challenge to the monopolisation of "spirituality" by the realms of the supernatural. It begs a fundamental question: why should the superstitious claim exclusive rights to a concept as universally human as spirituality?

At the heart of Mystricism lies an audacious belief: "spirituality", in its purest form, transcends the supernatural. It is a facet of the human condition, an innate response to the awe and wonder of the universe that requires no belief in the paranormal. The term "spiritual" has been hijacked and co-opted by those who tether it to the metaphysical . Yet, Mystricism argues, the feelings and experiences described as "spiritual" predate these associations. They are as old as humanity itself, embedded in our very biology, evoked by natural processes and the profound reactions they stimulate within our brains and central nervous systems.


The argument extends beyond mere semantics. It is a reclaiming of territory, an assertion that the profound, transcendent, and sacred belong not to the supernatural but to the realm of the natural, accessible to all through the lenses of reason, science, and empirical observation. Mystricism posits that the awe and reverence we feel, the moments of deep connection and transcendence, are not gifts from an ethereal realm but manifestations of our natural being.

Enter Aweism, a cornerstone of Mystricism, which underscores this narrative. Aweism celebrates the ability to experience profound wonder and connection without recourse to supernatural explanations. It is an acknowledgment that the universe, in all its natural splendour, is sufficient to evoke feelings traditionally described as "spiritual". Aweism, therefore, is not a diminishment of "spirituality" but its expansion, grounding it in the realities of the world as we can observe and understand them.

Critics might argue for alternative descriptors,’ connective,’ 'deeply felt,' and 'transformative', yet Mystricism holds that these terms, while accurate, fall short of capturing the full spectrum of the "spiritual" experience. They lack the depth, the universality, the bridge to the transcendent that "spirituality" provides. It is not merely about semantics; it's about reclaiming and redefining a space for those who seek a "spiritual" dimension grounded in the natural world, unencumbered by the supernatural.

In this light, Mystricism's embrace of "spirituality" is both a challenge and an invitation: a challenge to the traditional boundaries of the terms and an invitation to experience the "spiritual" through the natural, the empirical, and the rational. It is a call to recognise that "spirituality", in its essence, is a human experience, not owned by any one tradition but shared by all, a profound connection to the universe and each other that does not require the supernatural to be real.

Thus, Mystricism asserts its right to the term "spiritual", not as a concession to the supernatural but as a celebration of the human capacity for awe, wonder, and transcendence within the natural world. It is a statement that "spirituality" belongs to all of us, grounded in our experiences, science, and rational understanding of the universe. In reclaiming "spirituality", The MCU offers a vision of a world where the sacred is not beyond us but among us, woven into the fabric of the natural world and accessible through the wonder of rational discovery and the beauty of genuine awe.

What is our policy on adult vaccinations?

What is our Policy on Adult Vaccinations?

Firstly, we firmly support using vaccines as effective tools in preventing disease based on substantial scientific evidence demonstrating their safety and efficacy. Vaccines are crucial in public health, reducing the prevalence and morbidity associated with infectious diseases.

We recognise vaccines as natural solutions that leverage the body's innate immune response to build protection against specific diseases. Vaccination is viewed as a communal act of kindness. By getting vaccinated, individuals not only protect themselves but also contribute to the broader protection of the community, especially those who are vulnerable or cannot be vaccinated.

Honesty and transparency are paramount. We advocate for precise, accurate, and comprehensive education about the benefits and risks associated with vaccines, allowing individuals to make informed decisions without coercion. Governments, organisations and businesses should not coerce, belittle, or bully individuals into being vaccinated. Respect for personal choice is essential, particularly when individuals are fully informed of the risks and benefits of vaccines.

We would ask our public institutions to commit to providing educational resources and programs to ensure that all community members have access to reliable information about vaccinations, empowering them with the knowledge to make cognizant health decisions. Recognising the dynamic nature of public health, this policy is flexible and open to modifications in response to the severity and impact of specific diseases. 

In the context of a highly virulent and destructive disease, our stance may adapt in accordance with the "social contract". This philosophical concept implies that individuals either implicitly or explicitly agree to surrender some freedoms to a governing body in exchange for the protection of essential rights and the maintenance of social order. In public health emergencies, where individual choices can disastrously impact community well-being, a temporary recalibration of this policy may be necessary to protect public health and ensure the survival and well-being of the community at large.

This vaccination policy reflects Mystricism's dedication to upholding the scientific method, fostering communal kindness, respecting natural solutions, and maintaining honesty and humility in our ongoing discourse about public health. We respect individual choices but also recognise our collective responsibility in the face of global health challenges. We are committed to revisiting and revising this policy as necessary to adapt to new scientific knowledge and changing public health landscapes.

Is Mystricism secular?

Is Mystricism Secular?

Before we answer this question, getting on the same page regarding definitions might be helpful. The term ‘secular’ refers to attitudes, activities, or other aspects of life, culture, or society that are NOT connected to religion or spirituality. In this context, the word ‘religion’ pertains to belief systems and practices centred around faith in and worship of a higher power or deity. Also, the term ‘spiritual’ relates to matters involving the human spirit or soul as opposed to material or physical things: 


Mystricism is secular. It is grounded in naturalism, altogether rejecting supernatural and paranormal elements, and relies on scientific inquiry and rational thought to understand the world. However, it incorporates elements that might seem akin to superstition if only given a superficial glance. These elements, however, are entirely naturalistic with no irrationality in any sense.


Here’s a detailed look at how Mystricism fits within the secular context:


Secular Characteristics


1. Naturalism: Mystricism strictly adheres to a naturalistic worldview. It emphasises that reality is entirely natural and ultimately only comprehensible through rational and empirical enquiry without invoking supernatural explanations.


2. Scientific Method: The movement upholds the methods of science as the most honest and only reliable approach to understanding reality. This reliance on empirical evidence and reason is a cornerstone of secular philosophy.


3. Agnostic Atheism: Mystricism's stance of agnostic atheism aligns with secularism, acknowledging the limits of human knowledge and rejecting faith-based beliefs in deities or paranormal entities.


Elements that may seem Non-Secular.


1. “Spiritual” Experiences: While Mystricism is secular, it recognises, and values naturalised "spiritual" experiences. These transcendent moments of awe and connection are inspired only by the natural world and the vast unknown, with no requirement for the supernatural. These feelings are derived solely from our brain and nervous system’s reaction to moments of sublime wonder. We consistently denote “spiritual” with quotation marks to show the difference.


2. Higher Power Concept: The movement's reverence (respect and awe), not worship, for the unknown as our higher power adds a layer of depth. This concept has no mind, personality, agenda, awareness, divine or supernatural elements, but is an acknowledgment of the universe's infinite complexity, promoting humility and subduing hubris.


While Mystricism is secular in its core principles and methodology, it enriches the secular experience by encouraging a sense of wonder by embracing and savouring moments of sublimity. This blend makes it unique, offering a comprehensive approach to living ethically and appreciating the natural world without relying on supernatural beliefs.

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What does it mean to be a Mystric in everyday life?

What does it mean to be a Mystric in everyday life?

Being a Mystric means striving, reflecting and learning to improve on each of our core principles, to do our best to embody the following precepts in our daily lives:

Kindness: Always doing our best to be kind and considerate, even when it seems undeserved.

Honesty: Viewing the world and oneself through the lens of scientific philosophies and methods, maintaining an honest perspective.

Realism: Embracing a reality that is entirely natural without relying on superstition, the supernatural, or the paranormal.

Humility: Holding profound reverence for the infinite unknown, recognising it as our higher power.

Inspiration: Finding wonder, awe, and beauty in those rare, inexplicable moments of naturalised "spirituality" that transcend ordinary experiences.

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